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An Effective Treatment For Many Conditions From the 1800s….

See Notes From Lynn And Why You Want To Add Never-Ending Plasma Energy Super Immune With Pine Plus For Being Prepared After These Notes…

Dr. Thomas Cowan(TC) interviews Dr. Andrew Kaufman(AK)

About Turpentine

TC: Dr. GIlbert Ling –‘cells’ or tissues are made of structured water and people get sick because there is stuff dissolved in this water. I’ve been looking my whole career for a way to get this out of the water. And Dr. K said, why don’t you just give them turpentine? Why didn’t I think of that! I had heard a little bit about turpentine—it’s a solvent. I have used some and I have a bottle of Creekwood Natural and I have a jar of spruce resin, often called ‘pitch…’

AK: …I recommend sauerkraut juice for probiotics.

TC: what is turpentine, where do you get it, when do you use it and how do you dose it?

AK: …(our opinions)…you need to be informed and use protocols in using turpentine as you can get cleansing reactions which can be unpleasant… you need to know what the safe doses are. I teach based on the research of Dr. Jennifer Daniels. You will have no problem if you follow these protocols….

AK: Dr. Daniels learned in the days of slavery in the south in the US, the slaves made and used turpentine for healing. The slave owners would often go to the slaves and ask for their special cure. There is research in France going back 150 years on the use of turpentine. …look at the Merck Manual from 1899; turpentine was actually a standard medication in the US until the FDA was established and they banned it from being a therapeutic… Vicks Vaporub has turpentine in it. It is a decent medication for mosquito bites and you can use it for pneumonia if you cover your whole chest with it.

AK: The use of turpentine was suppressed by the pharmaceuticals. When you have turpentine many of their pharmaceuticals are unnecessary. It is the distilled sap from the spruce pine tree. It is different from pine oil and pine needle tea. The pitch is different from the sap. It may have some of the healing properties and I have heard of people using it on wounds.

AK: turpentine is the oil extraction and not the water or aqueous extraction. It has terpenes and it is an excellent solvent, industrially. You will find it used as paint thinner and in art supply stores for oil paints. It is the most expensive paint thinner because it is not made from petroleum which is cheaper to process. It has to say 100% pure gum spirits of turpentine on the label to know that it is pure.

AK: sometimes they add adulterants to turpentine like the poison, Benzene and then they call it de-natured turpentine.

This is from the MERCK MANUAL OF 1899, a major reference book that lists all medicinal substances and their use. 1899 is the last one that has turpentine in it. Here is a list of what turpentine was used to treat. 88 items are on the list from Anthrax, bronchitis, calculi (gall stones or kidney stones), cancer, catalepsy—a serious neurologic disease, chilblains, cholera, cystitis (urinary tract infection), deafness, diphtheria, dysentery, emphysema, aneuresis (bed wetting), epilepsy if due to worms, nosebleeds, infections, fever, flatulence, gangrene, gastric ulcer, gonorrhea, blood in the urine, intestinal hemorrhaging, hemorrhoids, hydrocephalus (fluid on the brain), impotence, jaundice (problem with liver congestion), meningitis, acute nephritis (kidney infection), finger and toenail infections (fungus), peritonitis, pertussis, many worms such as tapeworm, trigeminal neuralagia, smallpox, typhoid fever, and yellow fever.

AK: many of these are attributed to viruses, but turpentine I listed as a cure for all of these and here are the actions attributed to it.: anthelmintics, antiseptic (equivalent to taking antibiotics for infections), diaphoretic (sweating out a fever), diuretic (increase urine production), expectorant (help clear mucous and blockages), styptic (stop bleeding—people used to use styptic to stop bleeding from shaving cut).

TC: I heard this was the only medicine in the US that slaves were actually allowed to have or use other than foraging for herbs.

AK: it is very inexpensive and very easy to make on your own. If you can make moonshine, you can make turpentine. It’s very accessible and this is a threat to the pharmaceutical companies. The $10 to $15 you paid for the bottle will last you for years. I am not aware of it going bad and it is not light sensitive so it will last a long time.

AK: the maximum safe dose you ever use in one day is one teaspoon. That should be the total for taking orally and using on your skin. Make sure that the total doesn’t exceed the 1 teaspoon per day. The lowest fatal dose on a young child was 3 tablespoons which is 10x the recommended dose.

AK: it can be used on the skin for cellulitis, skin infections, abscesses, wounds—I use a few drops to address a wound if it is more than a tiny knick.

TC: it is a solvent and has terpenes, but doesn’t it bind to toxins and pull them out?

AK: I believe that it is the solvent properties that make it successful. I think our aqueous bodies have water as the key component but we have some fatty compounds in our bodies that interact differently and cannot be dissolved with water. What I think happens is that many toxins we are exposed to are actually also oil solubility, fatty, greasy junk. If you take the pea trap out of your sink or any drain pipe in your house and look at it, wipe your finger on the inside, it is greasy gunk. My theory is that this happens in all our blood vessels and that affects our organs.

AK: vascular disease is specifically build-up of stuff in the blood vessels, that oxidizes cholesterol, activates the clotting system and causes all sorts of problems. When we do conventional cleansing, it is water-based. It can mechanically agitate some of this stuff and get it out, but there is the layer that binds and stays behind and this can become the preferred milieu for parasites. If enough is built up, parasites will establish themselves.

AK: when you use turpentine it dissolves the gunk and totally cleans it out. It’s like using drano, but it is sodium hydroxide and toxic and turpentine is not toxic. It is a mild solvent that dissolves this and the waste products go to the liver and out the bowels into the toilet.

AK: when you have skin lesions, lumps and bumps of various kinds, that is your body trying to express toxins through the skin or store them there because they won’t damage a vital organ. By putting solvents on the lesions, you dissolve those toxins into the blood vessels. If the bowels and liver are stimulated they will remove them out of your body. Cleansing reactions are when toxins are moved in your body, but they re-settle somewhere else or are circulating in the blood and cause the cleansing symptoms.

AK: auto-immune disease did not exist in 1899. In my observation in using this with autoimmune disorders like fibromyalgia, but also ulcerative colitis, Crohn’s disease, lupus people have had amazing results and many were completely cured of those conditions. That is an important area to consider.

AK: topical is simple and you can use it right away. You want a procedure to let the toxins that are released escape the body, such as through stimulating the bowels and liver. You can use an enema. You could take 1/4th cup of castor oil or use herbal laxatives. You really need that much castor oil and some people need more than that to really clean yourself out. I would reserve that for a serious condition. You could use herbal laxatives like senna, barberry root, cascara, or blends of those.

AK: You could do a bath with bentonite clay or Epsom salts or an infrared sauna. That makes sense for the skin because you are using the sweat glands and the pores to get the stuff out of your body. You need these combinations or these things will settle somewhere else in your body and you don’t want that.

AK: if you have lesions, lumps, bumps, scars and they can all react to the solvents.

TC: so basically you drink some water, do an enema or use an herbal laxative to clear your bowels.

AK: if you are using a couple of drops of turpentine topically you don’t have to worry so much. On the day that you use it make sure you have a couple of extra bowel movements. But if you take it internally then you have to be very strict. You have to have a minimum of 3 bowel movements for 14 days along with taking enough water. If you are dehydrated and your blood is thick, you cannot get this cleared out.

AK: you want to do a pre-detox and get out all the water-based stuff. When the turpentine comes in and gets rid of all the greasy junk you are not overwhelmed with so much toxicity that it can’t get it out.

AK: after you do the preparatory work, I also recommend a 30-day cleansing diet at the same time as you are doing the prep work. That would be a strictly whole food vegan diet without legumes and without any gluten containing grains. You could eat quinoa, brown rice, root vegetables and also regular vegetables. Limit the amount of fruit temporarily to one piece of fruit a day because many times the parasites want sugar and you are starving them out before you ‘remove their furniture’ with the turpentine.

AK: if you are already somewhat cleansed you can eat a fuller diet, but make sure that you have no processed foods, no alcohol, non-water beverages. It’s really important to be adequately hydrated and I recommend one liter for every 60lbs of body weight daily. It needs to be purified water, and purified and structured would be optimal. Some people may want to do a water bath as long as you do some real cleansing and have the bowel movements and water and you don’t put in extra toxins.

AK: some people may be super toxic and have to do this longer. If you go through a protocol we can tell you where to find a published protocol. If you have any reaction hold off and don’t do any more and do more cleansing first.

TC: if someone has acute pneumonia or a kidney infection does this mean they can’t really do turpentine?

AK: not at all—there is a different way to do it. In an emergency you can do:

  1. Systemic illness or sepsis: give turpentine with castor oil. Put 1/4th castor oil and 1 teaspoon turpentine—they will mix together because they are both oil solvents. Take that it will guarantee huge bowel output. This is the shortcut in an urgent situation. You can repeat that daily if the person is still ill.
  2. For pneumonia you could cover your rib cage with Vicks Vaporub which is therapeutic. You can recover in 24 hours if you make a steam infusion of turpentine. You do enemas to clean out the bowels. Take one quart of water and add 2 cloves of garlic and boil for 10 minutes. Then turn off the heat and put 5 drops of turpentine on the top. Then put a towel over your heat with your head over the pot and do steam inhalation for 5 to 10 minutes. You can do that 3 times a day and do a couple of enemas and that should give you really good results with pneumonia.

TC: so with acute illness where a person is not prepared you do bowel cleansing with enemas or some laxative. And you are putting a teaspoon of turpentine in 1/4th cup of castor oil and drink a lot of water.

AK: make sure you are close to a toilet when you take this. be prepared to sit there for awhile. That could turn a critically ill situation around.

TC: would that help with pain or an abscessed tooth or something like that?

AK: if you have something that is on a focal point, I would go for more localized treatment. I haven’t heard of people using this for tooth infection. But if it is an abscess at the gum line where they want to do surgery then this would be appropriate and put a small amount and swish in your mouth or put some on your finger and rub the area. I would use it at the site. But if the person is getting septic from the tooth infection then go for the systemic treatment.

TC: if it is in the lungs with bronchitis or pneumonia then you do the steam inhalation method.

AK: exactly.

TC: the other one is the autoimmune chronic condition.

AK: for the chronic conditions such as parasites, autoimmune diseases, possibly cancer you do this. There was one person with a recurrent lymphoma and they were able to reverse that with using a solvent on the site—turpentine mixed with castor oil and do systemic turpentine.

TC: so that procedure is 30 days of this very clean diet…and 30 days of having 2 to 3 bowel movements every day.

AK; it has to be 3 minimum daily and you have to keep that up as long as you keep taking the turpentine. The first 2 weeks you have the cleansing diets, the water and the bowel movements and then you can start with the turpentine. You continue the diet for a few more weeks and then you can start re-introducing other food groups. Do this slowly and pay attention to how your body responds in case you have an intolerance to something. Go back to eating pretty normally after 30 days and still continue taking the turpentine. With the turpentine you keep up with the water requirements (1 liter for 60 lbs) and keep up with the 3 daily bowel movements. It continues to be safe.

AK: you can continue doing this for 12 months and there have been some people with autism who have done it that long and continue to put out worms in their stool almost indefinitely. Continue until you think you have had maximum benefit. For most people it is 4 weeks depending on how ill they are. I say to do this 3 times a week and Dr. Daniels says 2 times a week. The dose is between ½ and 1 tsp. and trust your body. If your body feels like it wants more then try 3/4ths teaspoon. Let your body guide you. Anywhere in that range is therapeutic.

TC: how do you take the turpentine—straight on a spoon?

AK: I go with the time-honored sugar method aside from the emergency castor oil situation. Use organic plain white sugar instead of a sugar cube. Raw sugar has a lot of sharp edges on the crystals and scratch your throat when you swallow. If you get scratchiness in the throat it is from the sugar crystals and not from the turpentine. Put 3x as much sugar as turpentine. So take 3 tsp sugar on a serving spoon with the 1 tsp. of turpentine. You can split the dose in half if you don’t want to take the big spoonful at once.

AK: put the sugar in the spoon and drip the turpentine on top. Some of the sugar will be dry and some will be wet with the turpentine. The sugar is thought to be bait for parasites as they take up the turpentine. I don’t know if the turpentine kills the worms; I think they don’t need to stay around when the oily sludge is gone. People don’t get tiny pieces of worms in their stool—the worms are generally intact. This is good. If the worms are ‘chewed up’ they release the contents in their bodies and that will make you sick. This is gentle and pharmaceuticals are not gentle and they could cause the inflammation reaction when the worms break up.

TC: so with ½ tsp. of turpentine you would drip it onto 1 ½ tsp. of sugar. Drip in on with an eye dropper and some should be moist and some should be dry. Put it in your mouth and swallow.

AK: and you can take some water. It is recommended to take anti-oxidants when you do this. I put some ascorbic acid powder in the water and drank it to chug down the turpentine and I found that way was pleasant. You can also just do it with the straight water. Just get it down and don’t chew on it; keep drinking until it all goes down. I recommend doing this in the evening. You will have turpentine tasting burps and if that happens while you are sleeping it is less of a nuisance

TC: so do this 3x a week for 4 weeks until your situation is better and resolved.

AK: you can do a maintenance schedule. You don’t have to do the cleansing diets beforehand. Just make sure you have some extra bowel movements or enema on the day that you start and the day after. You can do this one a month, one a year. You can do the entire protocol once a year and I have done this 3 times once a year.

TC: Jennifer Daniels sells Vitality formula to make you have more bowel movements.

AK; yes, Vitality capsules and the website is Download the candida cleaner report and that is your instruction manual to do this safely. That is the protocol I follow and make sure you follow it exactly for the best results.

AK: This is one of the easiest things to use for increasing bowel movements and she is very careful about sourcing her ingredients so they often run out. It is a blend of seena, casgara and barberry root. It has several other herbs that are soothing, plus garlic, ginger, cape aloe, and the extra strength formula also has cayenne pepper. Take one capsule with the biggest meal the first day and drink enough water. If you don’t get 3 bowel movements the next day then take 2 capsules. Add capsules until you get 3 bowel movements. I have to take 12 to 13 of the regular strength capsules and then I can switch to the extra strength and take 6 to 7 of those for the 3 bowel movements a day.

AK: everyone will be unique. You can drink celery juice and you would need a pint. If you boil beets you can use that. You can use prunes but they are very high in sugar. If you have a child doing this, then prunes might be acceptable if they can’t swallow pills or won’t stand for the enema. The fallback is to do one enema a day. That is sufficient to get the cleansing reaction. If you do a daily enema those count for the 14 days. I don’t mean fleet enemas or caustic soda enemas; I am talking about one liter of distilled water enema.

TC: go to creekwoodnaturals for the turpentine. Get the protocol.

Notes from Lynn:

My brother and I were laughing a few weeks ago about our mother giving us castor oil occasionally. She always offered it with soda crackers to get us to take it … yes it was gross. And she often had to ask us where we had hidden the castor oil. I was probably about 5 years old then.

Now what happens when you don’t have these tools and they are not available? Are you aware that Super Immune With Pine Plus has turpentine energies, as well as the pitch from our local forest….and much more!

I did the turpentine protocol several years ago …but it was not laid out in the detail that you have in these notes. And yes, you do burp the taste!

Here is the website they referred to:

And following is the Never Ending Plasma Energy Super Immune Plus Pine Support I referred to; remember you are able to share your Plasma Energy combinations with others once you have set up your jar with your vial and your ‘mother source.’ There is no loss of potency when we put water in the vials and send it to you, then you set your jar up and share with others.

Never Ending Plasma Energy Super Immune With Pine Plus Support

This is a combination of the energies of Super Immune Support and Pine Plus Support and the following energies are included:

  • Querccitin, perilla frutescens extract, fisetin, luteolin, nettle, Butterbur extract, Hypromellose, leucine and
  • Magnesium: magnesium as mag. Oxide, dicalcium phosphate
  • Humic/fulvic powder blend with trace minerals, activated charcoal, zeolite, silica and
  • Vitamin C, elderberry, zinc, sorbital, xylitol, Enzyme blend, Gingko biloba plus Vitamin B1: thiamine as thiamine hydrochloride and
  • Vit C as ascorbic acid, Vit E as natural D Alpha tocopherol succinate, biotin, magnesium as magnesium oxide, zinc as zinc oxide, manganese as manganese AAC, chromium as nicotinate glycinate chelate, taurine, licorice root extract, cinnamon bark extract, yarrow aerial, cayenne pepper, juniper berry fruit, gymnema sylvestre leaf, banaba leaf extract, bitter melon fruit extract, white mulberry leaf extract, alphalipoic acid, vanadyl sulfate and
  • Pretandum: calcium as dicalcium phosphate and calcium carbonate, milk thistle seed extract, bacopa whole herb extract, ashwaganda root extract, green tea leaf extract, turmeric rhizome extract and
  • Siberian Pine Oil, Osha Root, Flower Rescue Remedy, Argentum nitricum, cinchona pubescens. Conium maculatum, delphinium staphisagria, stychnos nux-vomica, piper methysticum, acena sativa, panax ginseng and
  • Barium carbonicum, calcium jodatum, helianthemum canadense, conium maculatum, ecinacea angustifolia, gallium aparine, jugalans regia, scrophularia nodosa and
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  • Acidum, benzoicum e resina, acidum nitricum, apis mellifica, berberis vulgaris, colchicum autumnale, dactylopius coccus, solidago virgaurea, capsella bursa pastoris and
  • Osha root, lungwort herb, lobelia herb/seed, mullein leaf, plantain leaf, peppermint leaf, Lomatium dissectum root, Blue spruce needles , Douglas fir needles and
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  • More ingredients include: humic acid, surfactant blends, citric and ascorbic acids, Vitamins C and A, magnesium, Elderberry, zinc, gingko biloba, Vitamin B1, Siberian Pine Oil, Osha root, hydroxychloraquine, fennel seed, chaga mushroom, ivermectin, lemon, cinnamon leaf, Moroccan rosemary, cloverbud, eucalyptus, grapefruit, teatree oil, bergamot oil, lime oil and
  • Fenbendazole, shungite, C60, Silver Gans, epazote, green tea, star of anise, nutmeg, milk thistle, C60 plus more energies found in Clear Mind, Anxiety Relief, Peace, Detox, and Parasite Relief and Lung Support and certain flower remedies. Also included are muscadeen grape seed.

Also included are the following are the energies from Never Ending Plasma Energy Pine Plus Support and the Ingredients are as follows:

Ponderosa Pine: Resin and Pine cone–

Pine resin is anti-microbial and anti-inflammatory, effective in easing muscle and joint pain. Pine resin can increase circulation, which also explains why it helps with pain relief.Ponderosa pine was valued for its antiseptic and vulnerary properties, using it to treat a range of skin problems, cuts, wounds, burns and valued for its beneficial effect upon the respiratory system and was used to treat various chest and lung complaints. The turpentine obtained from the resin of all pine trees is antiseptic, diuretic, and as a valuable remedy used internally in the treatment of kidney and bladder complaints. It is used both internally and as a rub and steam bath in the treatment of rheumatic affections. It is also very beneficial to the respiratory system and so is useful in treating diseases of the mucous membranes and respiratory complaints such as coughs, colds, influenza and TB. It is a very beneficial treatment for a variety of skin complaints, wounds, sores, burns, boils etc and is used in the form of liniment plasters, poultices, herbal steam baths and inhalers. The branches are used in herbal steam baths as a treatment for muscular pains and plant tops have been used in the treatment of internal bleeding and high fevers. An infusion of the dried buds has been used as an eye wash.

Blue spruce oil applied topically have been known to relieve tense and stressed muscles, while the woodsy aroma of this oil invigorates the senses, brings peace to the mind, and relaxes the body. Its aromatic influences may also help open and release emotional blocks, bringing a feeling of balance and peaceful security. Spruce infused oil is wonderful for sore muscles and various skin conditions. To make an infused oil, you need enough twigs and needles to fill your jar and an oil of your choice. I prefer sunflower oil as it is great for the skin, high in vitamin E and has little fragrance. 

DMSO comes from trees as a by-product of paper-making process and is a colorless liquid that gained notoriety for its ability to penetrate skin and other biological membranes. Some doctors began to use DMSO to treat cases of skin inflammation and diseases such as scleroderma because of its ability to penetrate skin. Scleroderma is a rare disorder that causes your skin to harden. Some studies have found that DMSO may also be useful for treating certain side effects of chemotherapy extravasations such as tingling, burning, pain, and swelling.

Osha Root is a perennial herb that’s part of the carrot and parsley family found on the edges of forests in parts of the Rocky Mountains and Mexico that grows up to 3 feet (1 meter) tall and has small, bright green leaves that look like parsley. It can also be identified by its small white flowers and wrinkled, dark brown roots. Also known as bear root, Porter’s licorice-root, Porter’s lovage, and mountain lovage, osha has traditionally been used in Native American, Latin American, and South American cultures for its purported medicinal benefits. It is considered an immune booster and aid for coughs, pneumonia, colds, bronchitis, and the flu. It’s also used to relieve indigestion, lung diseases, body aches, and sore throats. Osha root is thought to treat respiratory illnesses, sore throats, and lung diseases. However, no studies currently exist to support these claims. Osha root extract and its plant compounds have antimicrobial effects, which may help protect against. Osha root has been administered topically to disinfect wounds. It has also been used to treat some viral and numerous bacteria, including Staphylococcus aureusE. coliEnterococcus faecalis, and Bacillus cereus. Other potential benefits include reduced blood sugar levels and protection against stomach ulcers. 

Siberian Pine Nut Oil with Pine Resin: Benefits of pine nut oil are distinguished from other well-known curative oils by its enriched content of various kinds of healing elements. Clinical tests of pine nut oil demonstrate the healing effectiveness of a given product in both internal and external applications such as ulcers and pine nut oil has an anti-inflammation effect in treating cholecystitis and hepatocholecystitis.

Pine Bark Extract: Maritime pines are known to contain health-promoting plant compounds like vitamins, polyphenols, and other phytonutrients. Procyanidins. A type of flavonoid that acts as an antioxidant and appears to have medicinal properties such as catechins that protect cells from oxidation and damaging free. There are also phenolic acids that are high in antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties that have the potential to improve conditions like cancer, heart disease, and neurodegenerative conditions like Alzheimer’s

Pine Nuts are edible seeds that are high in non-saturated fats and pack a variety of nutrients essential to your health, including vitamins, minerals, and heart-healthy fats. Healthy fats, protein, and fiber in pine nuts can help keep blood sugar levels stable, help with diabetes management, support heart health and brain health.  They can increase energy levels due to their protein, iron, and magnesium. The antioxidant power of vitamin E contained in them may help keep your skin healthy and young in appearance. 

Additional energies are from silver, copper, zinc, vitamin D, Vitamin C, Vitamin B1, potassium glutathione

Super Immune Plus Pine Support is meant to support the body. The body will use what it needs from the plasma energies provided at any given time and ‘ignore’ the others. These ingredients are in the plasma energy state and not the ‘matter’ state. The unopened vial will be placed in or on a large clear glass or plastic container filled with distilled or filtered water. Add the distilled or filtered water and let it charge overnight and just continue to add filtered or distilled water when the container is down 1/3rd of the way so you never run out of your supply of Never Ending Plasma Energy Super Immune Pine Plus Support.


Lynn Schmaltz introduces Never Ending Plasma Energy Pine Plus Support and Never Ending Plasma Energy Super Immune Support. Also introduced is the combination of the two Super Immune With Pine Plus Support. Pay attention to additional information in the video at the following link:

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